(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[North American Ing Masters Round 2, Board 2: Lin 7d vs Yang 7p]
PW[Tianyu (Bill) Lin]WR[7d]
PB[Yilun Yang]BR[7p]
EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[2]
DT[2010-08-03]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[78.0]
RE[B+Resign]
US[David Weimer]
RU[AGA]ST[2]
TM[5400.0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
AN[Xuefen Lin 1P]
C[North American Ing Masters
Round 2, Board 2
W: Tianyu (Bill) Lin 7d
B: Yilun Yang 7P
Monday, August 2 2010
UCCS, Colorado Springs, CO
Commentary by Xuefen Lin 1P
Game Recorded by David Weimer
Published in the American Go E-Journal

USGO2 [-\]: North American Ing Masters, round 2 at 8 pm Central Standard Time


]
;B[pd];W[dp];B[pq];W[dc];B[de];W[ce];B[cf];W[cd];B[fq];W[dn];B[df];W[fc]
;B[cj]
(;W[ip]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: more popular lately];B[kq];W[qn];B[qp]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: this is a fast opening for W; I think W had a very good opening because he separates B's areas]
;W[pj];B[qh];W[on]
C[Prophet19 [9k\]: is there a video feed of this?
];B[pm]
C[USGO2 [-\]: no video, sorry
Prophet19 [9k\]: aww :(
Prophet19 [9k\]: lol thx
]
;W[pn];B[np];W[nc];B[pc]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the North American Ing Masters---this is board 2, round 2
USGO2 [-\]: Dave Weimer recording
Prophet19 [9k\]: thanks dave :D
Discipline [5k?\]: What is 1st place prize?
wuwei [4k\]: hey, are you davew?
USGO2 [-\]: on behalf of the E-Journal
]
;W[kd]
C[USGO2 [-\]: no, weimo
Yekai [2d\]: H17?
];B[qk]
C[wuwei [4k\]: oh
evanj [2d\]: wow, they play fast
Yekai [2d\]: J17
Prophet19 [9k\]: ive wanted to see mr. yangs recent games guess i have a chance tonight :D
riric [18k\]: is there going to be commentary?
USGO2 [-\]: no commentary on this game
gojustingo [8k\]: b6 nice for black
evanj [2d\]: b6? no
thekaiser [2d\]: r14 maybe
minuteman: i guess w q9
]
;W[no]
C[michi2009 [6d\]: does this work?
];B[mp]
C[minuteman: w prepare the battle field?
michi2009 [6d\]: preparing for r10
minuteman: yes
]
;W[qj];B[rj]
C[michi2009 [6d\]: q9?
];W[ri]
C[Athanor [-\]: too good for b
michi2009 [6d\]: wow
];B[rk]
C[minuteman: :)
];W[qi];B[ok]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: The fighting begins; B separates W but B's upper corner is damaged. If W can handle both groups, should be a good game for him. B should be attacking the marked stones to gain benefit.

evanj [2d\]: hm
michi2009 [6d\]: really?
minuteman: maybe a short game
]
TR[on:qn][no]
(;W[ph]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: This is too soft for W; no pressure on B: see variations]
;B[nm]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: Now B gets to attack W

michi2009 [6d\]: looks trouble for w
ViperDee [3k\]: zoef..
michi2009 [6d\]: s11 overplay probably
]
;W[mo]
C[agugglez [3k\]: myungwan kim isnt playing?
michi2009 [6d\]: k5?
];B[ko]
C[Karcusrd [7k\]: is this on video anywhere
Burton [6k\]: no read the earlier note
Kim536 [6k?\]: black is nice and calm
]
;W[mm]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: Now it's easy for B; the marked stone isn't helping W in the fighting that begins now.

minuteman: seems over
Karcusrd [7k\]: thanks
]
TR[ph];B[ml]
C[pinkrobot [1d\]: b so strong...w in trouble 2 places, maybe 3
];W[lm]
C[evanj [2d\]: no, only one
Athanor [-\]: 2 at least
];B[ll];W[km]
C[sivananda [2d\]: 7d takes w against sp?
pinkrobot [1d\]: j4, o5 and maybe q10
evanj [2d\]: j4 is not in trouble
evanj [2d\]: j4 is a light stone
dsaun [1k\]: siva, common in tournaments
Athanor [-\]: j4 is weak nonetheless
sivananda [2d\]: ok thx
]
;B[kl]
C[pinkrobot [1d\]: i c your point, evanj...but seems w have to pick between o5 stones or having j4 swallowed...sooner or later
]
;W[jm];B[jl]
C[PatrickP [20k\]: '
evanj [2d\]: maybe
];W[im];B[qf]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: This shows the cost of a single slow move: W's move at A lost tempo, and instead of defending and mounting a double attack, it's B who got to defend both groups while attacking. (end of commentary)

Kim536 [6k?\]: can white be cut at O6?
PatrickP [20k\]: is this a review of a game the timers arent moving?\\
michi2009 [6d\]: ?
Athanor [-\]: demo game
dsaun [1k\]: live game
PatrickP [20k\]: mm ok
]
;W[qg]
C[dsaun [1k\]: but relayed, scribe is entering the moves, so no clock
];B[pf]
C[Bayle [6k\]: can b cut with o6?
pinkrobot [1d\]: well, i'm all wrong...again. i didnt expect b just to make big wall
lwhite [5d\]: where is white from
Ripples [2k\]: no
Ripples [2k\]: i think if b o6
Ripples [2k\]: white p4?
dsaun [1k\]: w is from china, living a long time in Los Angeles
dsaun [1k\]: oops
]
;W[nj]
C[dsaun [1k\]: that's b
Ripples [2k\]: and thats sente
Kim536 [6k?\]: but then B N6 right?
Bayle [6k\]: hm
dsaun [1k\]: w is from canada, i think?
sivananda [2d\]: where is this game being played?
dsaun [1k\]: colorado springs, us go congress
Ripples [2k\]: yea but then the corner
Ripples [2k\]: looks sad ;O(
Bayle [6k\]: yah
michi2009 [6d\]: o10 looks good
Ripples [2k\]: with 2 stonies
USGO2 [-\]: W ia from Vancouver, game played in Colorado Springs
]
;B[hk];W[eq]
C[Kim536 [6k?\]: well j4 isn't as weak anymore
];B[cq];W[dq];B[ir]
C[lwhite [5d\]: ic
lwhite [5d\]: i thought i know that name,, 4 years ago he was still 3dan
lwhite [5d\]: youth sure improve fast
A003 [6k\]: i bet wooly is not here in the moment
dsaun [1k\]: thanks USGo2
kithus [9k\]: why is komi 78?
]
;W[gf]
C[Kim536 [6k?\]: ah white chose to disrupt moyo framework instead
];B[dd]
;W[cc]
C[USGO2 [-\]: komi is 8
kithus [9k\]: oh, okay
];B[ie]
C[miao [6d\]: poor b
miao [6d\]: w
];W[ki];B[ii];W[ih];B[hg]
C[cloudo [2k\]: w wanna go big
minuteman: j11 saved the cut
pinkrobot [1d\]: i think he wants to get into f12 before too late...esp w/ sente
aussiemate [8k\]: f12 
aussiemate [8k\]: or e10 
]
;W[hh];B[gg]
C[pinkrobot [1d\]: is h16 or j17 better for w? if he get chance to play there.
minuteman: h16, j17 not enough, I think
]
;W[hi];B[il];W[gm];B[gl]
C[hottttttt [?\]: b4 can live?
];W[pk];B[pl];W[rm];B[qm];W[op];B[oq]
C[Ripples [2k\]: in ko
];W[nk];B[nl]
C[hottttttt [?\]: really ko?
Athanor [-\]: no..
ethanb [2d?\]: I don't see a ko
Ripples [2k\]: oh i meant
]
;W[dk]
C[Ripples [2k\]: if b went d2
Ripples [2k\]: not b4
hottttttt [?\]: lol
Athanor [-\]: i'd say, now it can't live, but it could
hottttttt [?\]: why not now?
]
;B[dj]
C[Athanor [-\]: now there's d9
hottttttt [?\]: does that really matter?
ethanb [2d?\]: plenty of aji in that corner - C2 might even be able to live, but B4 is better
]
;W[ej]
C[Prophet19 [9k\]: hot everything matters
];B[lo]
C[hottttttt [?\]: i still think it can live
];W[mn]
C[Athanor [-\]: you might be right...
Prophet19 [9k\]: heres a question how is b's middle gonna live?
]
;B[ek]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: probably starts with F7
ethanb [2d?\]: huh
ethanb [2d?\]: or he has a brilliant plan that starts with this cut :)
Meepy [-\]: it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes
Meepy [-\]: an aeroplane. Yilun Yang is not afraid
Athanor [-\]: this looks like a kgs blitz. strange
]
;W[fg]
C[Meepy [-\]: Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn
dsaun [1k\]: i remember a YLY lecture last year, where someone asked "when to crosscut?" and he said "when you have no idea what to do" :)
]
;B[ff]
C[spookas [6k\]: haha
Prophet19 [9k\]: lol
spookas [6k\]: that makes this turn of events interesting...
ethanb [2d?\]: this isn't a cross-cut exactly
dsaun [1k\]: right, ethan
ethanb [2d?\]: black already had extensions in place for both of these cuts
SnC [2k\]: w getting crazy now
easygoing [4d?\]: like rolling the dice? ^^
nosebleed [2k\]: d10 area is if W continues there
]
;W[ck]
C[Prophet19 [9k\]: f10 e11 f12 e13 f11 ?
Athanor [-\]: now b c3 might die
Athanor [-\]: if b4
Iciac [5k\]: c3 can't die! D:
]
;B[bk]
C[Athanor [-\]: hum...still alive
braincrash [1d?\]: why not
hottttttt [?\]: sansan never dies
Iciac [5k\]: every kyu knows that ;-)
Prophet19 [9k\]: lol ive killed afew sansan invasions >..>
SnC [2k\]: it is impossible to kill b J8 group
Prophet19 [9k\]: may i ask why
]
;W[bl];B[bj]
C[shika12 [1d\]: it's not that impossible
shika12 [1d\]: just improbable\\
Prophet19 [9k\]: im my eyes its almost dead
shika12 [1d\]: that being said, black still needs to live
SnC [2k\]: w j7 group not safe yet
Iciac [5k\]: Quantum eyes: in stasis until observed.
pinkrobot [1d\]: w appears to be in trouble again
Prophet19 [9k\]: b c8 d8 b7 c7 a8 c8 b6 ?
braincrash [1d?\]: e8 
Prophet19 [9k\]: f11 for w?
easygoing [4d?\]: maybe f9?
Jarndyce [1d\]: mmm, the sacrifice...
braincrash [1d?\]: f9 is too bold
Iciac [5k\]: w could sacrifice the d9 stones to attack j8
braincrash [1d?\]: its not like w is 30 behind
pinkrobot [1d\]: that's what f9 would be about iciac
ericosman [1k\]: you mean like f9 ?
Prophet19 [9k\]: f9 e8 f8 c8 
pinkrobot [1d\]: i think w need good move to attack h13 stones
braincrash [1d?\]: he would like one but there isnt one
ericosman [1k\]: hard to attack h13 because black has g5
ericosman [1k\]: g15
SnC [2k\]: f9
]
;W[el]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: tada
];B[fk]
C[Jarndyce [1d\]: e8 then f11?
braincrash [1d?\]: e11 
];W[fh];B[ge]
C[shika12 [1d\]: white threaten to kill?
];W[ei]
C[shika12 [1d\]: yup
braincrash [1d?\]: aiming b12 but still early
SnC [2k\]: w is not worry about the big dragon
braincrash [1d?\]: i think he should e11 first
easygoing [4d?\]: b can f7
shika12 [1d\]: ei anything, he's aiming at b13
]
;B[li]
C[shika12 [1d\]: if*
];W[lj];B[kj]
C[spookas [6k\]: timers don't seem to be working for us - does it seem like b is using way less time?
]
;W[jj]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: this is not the actual game
N9DP [11k\]: Given Yang's credentials http://senseis.xmp.net/?YangYilun the  matchup seems rather uneven
Prophet19 [9k\]: dave whats the times?
]
;B[mj]
C[holynec [?\]: who will win?
Fei [-\]: b
USGO2 [-\]: b has 63 min
rjm [3k\]: n11?
braincrash [1d?\]: b is little ahead
USGO2 [-\]: w has  40 min
]
;W[kk]
C[freddygo [3k\]: it doesnt matter if hes a head if black dies, right?
]
;B[ni]
C[ConanHoye [14k?\]: n11, n9, m12 ko
ConanHoye [14k?\]: nope.
];W[oj];B[mk]
C[rjm [3k\]: white doesn't look strong enough in the area to make it stick
nosebleed [2k\]: B is splitting 2 weak groups now
gigo [6k\]: n12p12
]
;W[og];B[lh]
C[SnC [2k\]: w group is not safe
];W[jf]
C[easygoing [4d?\]: groups
hottttttt [?\]: e7 ?
];B[kh];W[jh];B[ij];W[hj]
C[MrCactu5 [2k\]: b not alive...
MrCactu5 [2k\]: maybe F7
braincrash [1d?\]:  n15 
]
;B[nf]
C[Prophet19 [9k\]: n15 p14 n14 o13 ?
];W[ng];B[mf]
C[rjm [3k\]: w gonna have to do a sad p11
];W[of];B[oe];W[mg]
C[gigo [6k\]: two cutting points now!
nosebleed [2k\]: yes but W isnt alive yet
Meepy [-\]: you mean k15 and m13?
gigo [6k\]: if he got two cuts maybe he can offord a p11
sesbes [1k?\]: j14 is sente for white?
PartyCrshr [4d\]: m14
ethanb [2d?\]: m14 - black will extend
PartyCrshr [4d\]: m13
ethanb [2d?\]: white's killing himself if he's not careful
gigo [6k\]: m14
gojustingo [8k\]: l14 
sesbes [1k?\]: neither white group is alive either
miammiam [2d\]: M13, then threatening Q13 ?
]
;B[lg]
C[rjm [3k\]: white seems too optimistic about being able to win a race against that b dragon
]
;W[lf]
C[gojustingo [8k\]: m14 
PartyCrshr [4d\]: this gives b extra libs
];B[me]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: ah, thanks :)
ericosman [1k\]: ho sow ?
];W[oi]
C[pinkrobot [1d\]: q13 cause too many problems for w
sesbes [1k?\]: P11?
rjm [3k\]: white must p11
]
;B[kf]
C[nosebleed [2k\]: B looks hungry
gigo [6k\]: yes
gigo [6k\]: conter attack
gigo [6k\]: !!
]
;W[je]
C[gigo [6k\]: oh
nosebleed [2k\]: ko to cut
];B[ld]
C[miammiam [2d\]: end of hunts, back to cash
nosebleed [2k\]: B attacke whole thing
]
;W[ch]
C[gigo [6k\]: where a ko to cut??
braincrash [1d?\]: hmm?
miammiam [2d\]: gigo, he meant K13.
nosebleed [2k\]: k13 j13 j14 l13 
braincrash [1d?\]: except it doesnt cut
ethanb [2d?\]: k13 j14
RamenBoya [4d\]: i dont see a good answer for black here
nosebleed [2k\]: um???
Prophet19 [9k\]: so is it just me or has w had sente 70% of this game
SnC [2k\]: d12
gojustingo [8k\]: o12 
RamenBoya [4d\]: d 12 b 12
pinkrobot [1d\]: is c12 good enough to pull a victory out for w?
gojustingo [8k\]: e7 
miammiam [2d\]: black has to find the move which saves B10 groups without weakening D14 group
braincrash [1d?\]: g17 
ericosman [1k\]: are the d14 black stones alive ?  and can black live the other stones with c8 ?
RamenBoya [4d\]: b will probably allow white to connect c 12 to c 15 group, and try to make two eyes with this area
pinkrobot [1d\]: c10 stones probably  dont matter, can use for aji to live in corner... but must survive d14
RamenBoya [4d\]: i think b is in big trouble
SnC [2k\]: b has to give up four stones
braincrash [1d?\]: b lives on top, looks plenty
ericosman [1k\]: well, if d14 not quite alive, should black take away some of white's possible profit with something like g17
RamenBoya [4d\]: even give up 4 stones, what now
RamenBoya [4d\]: not easy
pinkrobot [1d\]: what about ko at k13?
Prophet19 [9k\]: can we get the time left for each player?
RamenBoya [4d\]: seld destruction ko
braincrash [1d?\]: well gotta give up 4 at least for now
ethanb [2d?\]: pink robot, it's not a ko - k13 is ansered by j14
trebleclef [1k\]: ko at k13...
pinkrobot [1d\]: true...b in pickle
trebleclef [1k\]: i think b is counting ko threats 
PartyCrshr [4d\]: ko way too early
trebleclef [1k\]: ya
miammiam [2d\]: why do you want to give up these stones ? there are not really larger moves on the board
RamenBoya [4d\]: b is dying here
RamenBoya [4d\]: pts are not concern at the moment
trebleclef [1k\]: can't escape 
lwhite [5d\]: really?
josek [7k?\]: he knew that move when he didnt answer e11 i guess
braincrash [1d?\]: hmm g17 doesnt work after all
]
;B[bh];W[bg]
C[fireball [1k\]: hmm
miammiam [2d\]: will get 2 eyes because of aji in E12
]
;B[cg]
C[fireball [1k\]: black have more ko threat or other ways?
ethanb [2d?\]: other ways, apparently. :)
fireball [1k\]: o :)
RamenBoya [4d\]: b probably lives, but w connects b 13 c 12 to corner i think, in sente
gigo [6k\]: ko at k13 wy to bad for b... no?
]
;W[ci];B[bf]
C[RamenBoya [4d\]: oh..
];W[bi];B[ag]
C[RamenBoya [4d\]: interesting variation
];W[aj]
C[trebleclef [1k\]: um
RamenBoya [4d\]: b10 surprise
trebleclef [1k\]: y a10?
RamenBoya [4d\]: a10*
SnC [2k\]: so four stones captured. w good enough to win?
Athanor [-\]: no ko
fireball [1k\]: o going tohave a ko
rjm [3k\]: a10 helps against c8 i think, since takes an extra lib
fireball [1k\]: o
ericosman [1k\]: oh so black gave up the c10 stones in order to make c14 live in sente ?
trebleclef [1k\]: oh
Ailura [8k\]: oh
Athanor [-\]: l178 is big
Athanor [-\]: l17*
Prophet19 [9k\]: i count b has about 10-13 ko threats with my crappy 9k skills
braincrash [1d?\]: more like b gave up c10 to live
ericosman [1k\]: can black make c3 live ?  or at least make a ko ?
fireball [1k\]: no ko
SnC [2k\]: why w not a11?
hottttttt [?\]: omg no ko
sesbes [1k?\]: Black needs to play a12?
hottttttt [?\]: c3 is simply live
braincrash [1d?\]: a11 is totally w advantage
trebleclef [1k\]: not really
braincrash [1d?\]: cuz w can deny the ko
fireball [1k\]: yeah
gigo [6k\]: e11
pinkrobot [1d\]: L17 pretty big for b
fireball [1k\]: actually d11
gigo [6k\]: yep
SnC [2k\]: a 11 pure kill
braincrash [1d?\]: a11 d11 
ericosman [1k\]: the thing is, if white can still threaten to kill black with a12 ko, then black might be schvitzing
]
;B[hm];W[hn];B[gn]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: schvitzing is go term?
heirophany [14k\]: haha
miammiam [2d\]: in schvitzerland, yes
josek [7k?\]: sounds like german not japanese
heirophany [14k\]: tghhg;j
]
;W[fm];B[in]
C[heirophany [14k\]: yiddish
ethanb [2d?\]: now THIS is a ko :)
gigo [6k\]: b has more ko :)
gigo [6k\]: at least he thinks !
]
;W[hl];B[rg]
C[SnC [2k\]: wow big ko
];W[pg]
C[trebleclef [1k\]: that's why a10 not solid enough
];B[hm]
C[trebleclef [1k\]: so many threats 
fireball [1k\]: is any of you are mr. yang's student
]
;W[ol]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: I used to be
];B[om]
C[PartyCrshr [4d\]: big fight
fireball [1k\]: o
];W[hl]
C[Prophet19 [9k\]: i kinda am
pinkrobot [1d\]: i didnt realize how huge h7 was until b played it .... he just kind of sat on that move for about 1/2 the game. 
Prophet19 [9k\]: why not just h5?
Prophet19 [9k\]: for w
andrewshen [?\]: because everything to the right of the ko dies
gigo [6k\]: o12
gigo [6k\]: removes a ko for w
Prophet19 [9k\]: but h7 h5 h8 k6 ?
]
;B[bp]
C[sesbes [1k?\]: h5 k6 then ko for life
Prophet19 [9k\]: ahh ok
gigo [6k\]: so c3 was dead?? before that?
]
;W[hm];B[bn]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: sure
];W[fe];B[hf]
C[miammiam [2d\]: ko again, asking : where is your second eye ?
ethanb [2d?\]: not a ko, I guess - black can counter-atari and wrap around the outside
ericosman [1k\]: looks like b15 can make another eye
miammiam [2d\]: yes, but A12 will then be the ko
SnC [2k\]: where is ko
]
;W[fd];B[eg]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: miammiam: unless black kills C17 :)
];W[lc];B[ic]
C[miammiam [2d\]: allowing the ko
SnC [2k\]: who is leading now
ethanb [2d?\]: ok, a 2-point ko is still a ko, you got me.
]
;W[ob]
C[aussiemate [8k\]: both seem to be overlooking s12 
evanj [2d\]: what's the point of s12
miammiam [2d\]: S12 = few points
Sampi [1d\]: assie, s12 doesnt kill
]
;B[ro]
C[miammiam [2d\]: too small for now
Sampi [1d\]: w can make an eye at o12
evanj [2d\]: and in sente no less
]
;W[rn]
C[Sampi [1d\]: yes ^^
];B[pb];W[pa];B[qa];W[oa]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: b+8
Meepy [-\]: they meeped into endgame already?
]
;B[qb]
C[gigo [6k\]: o12 gote for b no?
Sampi [1d\]: yes
miammiam [2d\]: o12 gote (and useless for b); but sente for w.
Sampi [1d\]: but o12 is sente for w
ethanb [2d?\]: it's more sente than S12 is, therefore a better ko threat
]
;W[jc]
C[SnC [2k\]: b has three conners
sesbes [1k?\]: white s6 made sure that o12 is sente
gigo [6k\]: (see up :) )
ethanb [2d?\]: but S12 as black is better endgame, but it's too early to play
USGO2 [-\]: time b 28 min
USGO2 [-\]: w 41 min
fireball [1k\]: black si losing iguess
]
;B[hb]
C[Sampi [1d\]: only if b lives
ericosman [1k\]: black si losing only if b lives ???
ethanb [2d?\]: b is alive
trilobyte [?\]: w has very kittle territory
]
;W[cr]
C[fireball [1k\]: si*
fireball [1k\]: is*
];B[br];W[cp];B[bq]
C[Sampi [1d\]: oh sorry, i thought he meant w
];W[dr];B[bs]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: h3 
ethanb [2d?\]: feels to me like Black is way ahead; haven't counted yet though
fireball [1k\]: lol
ericosman [1k\]: is a5 annoying ?
]
;W[hq]
C[Athanor [-\]: no
Kirby [-\]: ah, he's a pro, so he must be ahead
];B[hr]
C[fireball [1k\]: o
];W[gr]
C[fireball [1k\]: are you that guy
fireball [1k\]: who create the kirby room
Kirby [-\]: nope
fireball [1k\]: o
fireball [1k\]: nvm
fireball [1k\]: sorry
pinkrobot [1d\]: well, komi is big
Kirby [-\]: my last name is kirby
fireball [1k\]: o
Meepy [-\]: i get white ahead by a bit
]
;B[ac];W[bc];B[ad]
C[ericosman [1k\]: b played a17 but b18 instead looked juicy
];W[ab];B[be]
;W[ba]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: loses points if you're wrong though
Hug [2k\]: why this komi?
Meepy [-\]: lol,78 komi
SoulShadow [9k\]: pretty sure this komi is a typo
Ailura [8k\]: komi is 8
Kirby [-\]: maybe white is like 5 ahead or something
Meepy [-\]: not that much
Prophet19 [9k\]: i like 78 komi it breaks se
ericosman [1k\]: is the "78" komi throwing off the "score estimate" tool ?
SoulShadow [9k\]: yes
Ailura [8k\]: se doesn't work anyway with AGA rules
]
;B[cl];W[dl];B[al]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: b +12
ethanb [2d?\]: I get 49 for w; 53 for b
pinkrobot [1d\]: i think b by about 5
miammiam [2d\]: this a8 move is nice
Kirby [-\]: both had somewhere around 50 points
jga [3k\]: se has p11 dying
Kirby [-\]: haha
ethanb [2d?\]: but that's before this crazy thing :)
Meepy [-\]: did he just save b9 ><
fireball [1k\]: i think im late, but is the estimate wrong?
braincrash [1d?\]: looks like
]
;W[cm]
C[fireball [1k\]: when by 78?
fireball [1k\]: win
ethanb [2d?\]: not quite, but he squeezed all the aji possible from it
ygz5001 [6k\]: ko?
fireball [1k\]: thats not true
]
;B[am]
C[ethanb [2d?\]: oh, my bad
ethanb [2d?\]: yees, he dis
braincrash [1d?\]: heh
ethanb [2d?\]: did
Kirby [-\]: or maybe white gave it up for some reason
]
;W[rh]
C[hottttttt [?\]: why a7? b7 not better?
nosebleed [2k\]: wow
braincrash [1d?\]: no
braincrash [1d?\]: yes b7 not better
nosebleed [2k\]: B rescued those stones!
hottttttt [?\]: why b7 not better?
braincrash [1d?\]: then w has ko to kill
ethanb [2d?\]: now black leads by at least 12
hottttttt [?\]: where?
Kirby [-\]: if you do b7, white simply a7 a6 d11 
ethanb [2d?\]: well, at least 9 - hadn't counted this move for either
]
;B[jb]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: b7 forms ko
];W[kb];B[mb]
C[hottttttt [?\]: ooooooh
braincrash [1d?\]: so b7 d11 
];W[md];B[le];W[nd]
;B[ne];W[ja]
C[miammiam [2d\]: eye gote in L10
];B[ib];W[gj];B[gk];W[gh];B[nb]
C[fireball [1k\]: ahh
miammiam [2d\]: dead
ethanb [2d?\]: miammiam: how?
braincrash [1d?\]: ow ow ow ow
fireball [1k\]: white didnt see that?
fireball [1k\]: i saw that beofre the moves
miammiam [2d\]: ethanb : 5am, i got hallucinations ;-)
fireball [1k\]: is easy to see arent it?
braincrash [1d?\]: i see it, now
Sampi [1d\]: im sure the 7d that in playing the tournament game against a pro saw this
SnC [2k\]: what is this
]
;W[ah];B[ai];W[nh]
C[braincrash [1d?\]: he dint see it soon enough
ethanb [2d?\]: Mr. Yang is on a rampage
]
;B[mi];W[ah];B[ak]
C[Sampi [1d\]: im sure he saw it way back
ethanb [2d?\]: nice
SnC [2k\]: nice 
ericosman [1k\]: nice
SnC [2k\]: pro move
USGO2 [-\]: white resigned
miammiam [2d\]: resign is the next move
ygz5001 [6k\]: come on
USGO2 [-\]: thanks all, good night
dsaun [1k\]: thanks for showing, USGo2 Dave :)
easygoing [4d?\]: Thx USGO2
Grumba [5k\]: thank you
Sampi [1d\]: thanks, Dave
ethanb [2d?\]: thank you for showing us the game!
N9DP [11k\]: Thanks
Ailura [8k\]: thank you
]
)
(;W[pk];B[pl];W[rm];B[qm];W[nl];B[ol];W[mk];B[oj];W[oi];B[ni];W[oh];B[mj]
;W[pf]
C[I like this better for W; by attacking B's center right group, he defends the marked group and also attacks the upper right corner. ]
TR[mk][nl][rm][on:qn][no])
(;W[oj];B[nk];W[pk];B[pl];W[rm];B[qm];W[nm];B[nl];W[lm]))
(;W[eq];B[fp];W[ip];B[kq];W[ir];B[fn];W[in];B[fl]
C[this leaves W's corner weak, this is why the kick at A is a problem]LB[eq:A]
))

